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Jeff Craig's avatar

when truth hits and doesn't set right with some one's frame work feelings get hurt and people get offended. lol we have a "religion" with God and not a relationship with him in the world. preachers charging to hear the good news and selling you an ideology while at the same time missing the very message they preach! crazy times we live in! brick and mortar.

Laura Bartnick - Psalm Hymns's avatar

What Pamphlet finally came? You mention a pamphlet. Sergio,

it has been my understanding that John Newton wrote the body of the song after God convicted him that the slave trade was evil and he became an abolitionist. He turned away from it. Just because a captain holds religious services for the men on the ship does not mean that he was a believer himself at that time. If he abused women. He obviously was not yet following Christ. I was taught that he repented and tried to stop the trade. Nevertheless less, white traders were buying slaves from black traders.

If you don't actually have the dates in order, this could be a real slur.

Either way, those who sing this song sing it in faith for what it means to them in a contemporary sense. Why are you being the devil's advocate?

Sergio DeSoto's avatar

Laura, this article is just about the facts of that song, and it's definitely not in the order that you're recalling. The song was written many, many years before he changed his mind about slavery and stopped assaulting women on the ships…

I'm not being the devil's advocate.

I'm showing you the depth of that doctrine and how it affected a man who engaged in deep sin and thought he was predestined to be released.

https://archive.org/details/thoughtsuponafri00newt/page/n3/mode/2up